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Or his guess as a specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow a particular strategy. But only, as an expression of his personal opinion, this podcast is for informational purposes only. All right, guys, bang bang. I've got Andrew Tate here. I don't know where the fuck he came from, but he's here in Miami, what's up,
man? Hey, man, I'm glad to be here. My friends. I'm really glad to be here. Nothing, you can't walk in the
studio looking like this. Just got swag off the
charts. Well, you know, I'm trying to stay clean, you know, this is Miami. So I thought I had
Dad, you know, dress up. Look my best.
Listen, we got new lights and stuff but you got your sunglasses on. We're just gonna roll with it. Let's do it. No one's ever ever, done interviews, his their sunglasses. I can't read your eyes. That's fine.
Whatever I had to keep them all in to protect myself from the fire, which I'm about to bring to the world. You understand, this is eye
protection, all right? I think of you as like, the Dan Bilzerian of Eastern Europe, is that a
fair characterization? That's a pretty fair characterization, but there's a slight difference in that and I'm not hating on Dan.
Mind and as an individual, okay? But Dan is more of a customer and I'm more of a pimp. Do you understand? Damn, I don't dance. The kind of guy. Who would contact a man like me to get girls in his videos. Okay, teachers I'm the kind of guy where the girls pay me the money, Dan. Gave them. Why? Because that's just how the game goes. I mean I I first made my millions of dollars to first time I ever became a millionaire was with web cam Studio. Oh really? I know that. Yeah, this is how I first ever made money. I mean, I was a kick boxing world champion but
Kickboxing is not boxing, right? Yeah. So I'd make like a hundred thousand dollars to fight. You fight two or three times a year, you pay 20% your manager, you pay taxes, but you're not rich rich. But when I retired from fighting it was because I found this little hustle of getting very beautiful girls to sit on laptops and talk to these men on the internet and I grew this little Empire and I best how I first started making millions of dollars. So that's how I first got rich. Where's
this all happening? What country? This was all happening in England. Okay,
so my life stories eclectic, bro, it's gonna be hard to like listen.
Track her to be like right now. I have what
I'm prepared to sit here for as long as this takes, because I know this is going to be entertaining to say the least. Do my best. You grew up in the United States. Correct? Where I
grew up in Paris town called Goshen Indiana. All right, it's yeah. No one's heard of it's all part down. Okay, so yeah, I grew up in Goshen Indiana. My father was a chess Grandmaster I was on track to become a chess Grandmaster so
he was a legitimate chest Grandma.
My father was the highest rated black chess player in
history, really? Yeah.
Father was a big G in chess.
Yeah, so I kind of grew up around all these chests Geniuses which is a really unusual way to grow up because you have like ex-kgb, guys, you have complete all tests like everyone's a weirdo, right? You're not that you're not that good at chess to be normal, what happened to you? Yeah, I'm weird to, I guess, I don't know. But it was kind of weird like growing up around all this hyper intelligence and like even my father. A lot of people say, oh, I know this guy, he's really smart or I know this guy is a photographic memory. No. And I'm not just saying this cause he's my dad when you've met true.
Supreme intelligence. I've never met anybody else in the world who had the level of intelligence. He had. So I
when you're like a Grandmaster at chess like Fisher chess, which my understanding is that these scramble up all the pieces. And you look at the board, he could pretty much be anyone in the world. Yeah,
it's more than even that it's more just like Supreme the ability to supremely recall information when I was with my father. If he needed your phone number he asked what's your phone number? And you'd say it once and that was it for the rest of his life. They didn't have to write it down. You tell him in a dress. That was it for the rest of
His life, he never wrote anything down in never had to repeat anything to him. My father, when he died, someone messaged me, who was in. Could my father was in the CIA, he held the fat, the record of the CIA, the CIA record for the fastest assimilation of a foreign language. My father learned Russian within two and a half weeks from 0ly. Really huge. Yeah. Just read a book. You just read the dictionary like to these people. It's just like it's read it. When my dad died, James altar Church, you know, he is, but James, All Tree can ask him about my dad, him and James played a game and it was a draw in the end and James did a tribute to my father saying that he was just a scared.
Dude, like he was just supremely smart, right? So
when you were growing up, did you know, your dad was in CIA.
He had left the military by the time I was any, I was like three when he left got it, took to pursue chess. So yeah, he was a linguist, he knew like four languages and he's a professional chess player and I grew up around this absolute Supreme intelligence and I always knew, even when I was a child, I was smart, but I wasn't that smart. Like I my my beautiful mother warned me down like I didn't have what he had like.he was complete.
Eat. He remembered every chess game he'd ever played so you could be sitting there and he'd say, oh I played him in 1982 and it would go through the whole game or he could beat you at chess without looking at the board. So you have a board in front of you and say e for he'd be in another room. C5 Knight F3 Knight C6 may be cooking dinner and you fucking smoke. You really? Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. He played simultaneous is replaced 100 people in a row so they'd sit there and they'd think and he just go board to board. Just make quick moves. He played a blind simultaneous where I'm just talking about different. You have a board and he has nothing he played three
But once blind beat them all. That's, that's how good Grandmasters are. This is what people don't understand about chess chess. I'ma kick boxing world champion and I'm telling you forget the UFC, forget kickboxing, the hardest sport in the world is World level chest. These guys are wired, different, you can't learn it, you either have it or you
don't. So how do you go from your dad being so intelligent? So successful at chest to wanting to kick box
because to me the same thing. Okay? Why because I was growing up with chest and then my mother and father split up my mom was English want to go back to England. I was
Levin 10 or 11. We went back in America chest is quite big in the schools and all this. I had my father is a coach who would take me two tournaments, all these things. I lost my keys,
so you played a lot as a kid. I was
state champion, age five in Indiana. The under-16s was the youngest ever win in. I remember, I remember, I was in there. I'll sit in there. I'll cross. Oh, sitting there across from 16 year old, when you're like, five and a half. That's scary, right? And I remember when I beat him, he cried.
That made me happy like haha, nothing big. Now at
five years old, you were the Indiana State chess champion and the under 16's. Yeah. So let's be honest everyone.
It's also, I was way on the walls on the way to becoming a Grandmaster.
Did you watch Queens Gambit? I'm assuming everyone's ask you about this.
I haven't watched it because I believe it's feminist Hollywood garbage, and it's propagating, the demise of masculinity amongst the population. So sorry to give you a Alex Jones answer. But the answer is no because this because it's
this feminist garbage and I ain't
true. Well, why do you believe
that? I believe that because that's what's obviously happening. I mean, there are, there are talented female players, but they're not nearly as talented as the men overall. They're not nearly as good as the men overall. Think the best female in the world is like number 50 in the world of you. If you incorporate men and I believe that Hollywood takes every single chance. It can to empower females to the point of reducing men's ability to look like a man, right? They just want to feminist propaganda. The Salah is this woman comes along. She's beautiful. Everyone doesn't take her.
Seriously, she beats them all at chess, every dude, in every move, he's getting beaten up by a chick. That's not real. Whenever you watch something on TV and every sitcom, the moms, the smart one, the dads, two bumbling, idiot. Like, I just feel like men are kind of under attack in culture, so I'm not going to sit there and watch a chess movie, which I know is absolute fantasy, which is just propagating, females, being mad at something else. They, they don't beat men at you. They don't
win. What's the best? Female chess player of all time? I don't know. Okay, do you have any clue that? Have they ever been top ten?
Top five, nothing
whatever. It's going to be like, I think maybe top 20 may be topped 30 at most, never
top 10, okay? And so how big is the difference between top 10 and top 20, or top
30? It's pretty big. And although
in like if number 56 down with number 25, is it? Just 99 out of 100 times? Number five
wins or no more like 70 75 %. I'd think, okay? Because what happens in a jessa's especially if you're a really good, even if you're in a losing position, you can push for a draw, right? So it's very hard to be.
Someone better than you, you might get draw out of them, but to
actually beat them actually to crush them is difficult. And this is what my dad was so known for my dad is famous in the chest Community to this day. Emory Tate was his name, they called him e.t. as in the alien because my dad was one of the only players who would never take a draw and he would rather lose in a blistering Blitzkrieg fashion. Then take a draw, right? So he had some big losses but he also had some fantastic crushing victories where he just went all out. He was he was really on the board. It was like it was Blitzkrieg. Did you just
Come at you with everything I've ever wanted his day. Even when he died James, all the church was talking about him. Saying I never played a guy who played chess like that, the guy was just crazy. So he was a, he was a crazy
chef. So why do you say chess and kickboxing or so
somewhere? Because I want them, firstly, I want to make someone else cry like the sixteen-year-old. I made Cry. Secondly, in most sports, there's a degree of luck. I'm tired of listening to Poker over to my mentioned chest. Some guy mentioned poker. I don't play chess. I play poker as if it's the same intelligence level shut up one. It's not right poker? Yeah. You have to be
Be smart but you don't need to be a an actual genius to play poker. That's the
first thing because of the luck
involves luck. I don't care how good you are. If I get pocket, aces, every single hand, and you get a crap hand, every single hand, and how good you are, I'm likely to win over. All right, where's there's luck involved? So there's n and most you
know that looks not real right? You think it's luck not real. Yeah this one here, my theory on this me. So luck is purely a psychological Concepts. All these people who are like oh I got lucky. No you didn't, it's probability. So probabilities of
Mathematical concept of right. Meaning that the hand that you get dealt, that's not luck or not luck. It's just probability. So you had lower high probability of getting that hand. Same thing with outcomes in life that right. It's all probability based. Yep. Luck is a psychological concept. Meaning that, let's say you and I both go to war, right? And your leg gets blown off. Yep. And I say to you, man, you know what you were really unlucky, that you're the one who is sitting in that seat in that vehicle that got blown up and you may say back to me. No, I'm lucky because I
I got my other two arms and legs. Yep. And so luck, even though we both see the same situation, it's all the mentality. That's what determines Lots. No, I
completely agree with you. But don't you think that viewing yourself as a lucky individual will give you an advantage as viewing yourself as an unlucky to control, even though it's all probability based. If you go through
Liars, academic research that suggests literally. The best way to become quote, more lucky is to literally just start saying, I'm a lucky person.
Well, there you go, that's awesome. It's all psychological.
Yeah, it's all psychological the
Concept of probability versus the concept of luck gets completely conflated in society and it's a freighter was so I got lucky. I got lucky. How are you successful? You ever heard a successful person? No wants to say. Hey, there's a probabilistic environment that got put into or probabilistic. Some of us are going to get rich. Yeah. And I made decisions that helped me get there. Everyone says, I got lucky. Yeah, he didn't the psychological concept because that same person who did this exact same steps in life? That would walk away and say I didn't get lucky. I'm unlucky because
I see reason.
This is true. A complete, I actually completely agree with you
but I guess it's one of the things that I believe and can prove from a psychological and mathematical standpoint that the most number of people get very uncomfortable to talk about
it. No, but I agree with you completely but I actually agree with you. I've always viewed myself as exceptionally lucky because I just think that's the best way to approach
situations. Yeah, it completely changes the psychological way that you view the world and what you can do it's just like saying I'm a happy person. Yep. Then all of a sudden things that happened to you that would take you out of that state of happiness.
A penis are much less likely to actually have an effect because you just view yourself as being happy
but I completely agree. In fact, I said something like this, someone was talking about feeling sad or whatever and we're talking about when am I ever sad?
Because I'm always so positive and I
said, no, I'm Different variations of happy. I have more happy, and I've slightly less happy, but, unless something Terrible's happened, I've lost a family member or less. I'm literally distraught, every day's a happy day. Even sad days are happy day. They're less happy than yesterday, but it's still a happy day, over all my happy, lucky person. And I refuse to be to categorize myself as anything else. So this is
With
you. All right, so kickboxing, you end up becoming a four-time world champion, four-time world champion. Okay? So like that's not like hey let me go out in the backyard and like kick somebody in the head and hope I'm good at it,
right? No it what? But I took chest, very seriously chest was six hours a day of my life and I wanted another sport. I won't say luck again because we've had that conversation by want another sport where a team mate. Couldn't save me or that there was no probable chance that my opponent would have an
unfair Advantage like
poker. So chess is one on one and if you lose somewhere along the line, you made a mistake.
And fighting is exactly the same and both of them are brutal. And in both of them, you're trying to crush your enemy as ruthlessly as possible. And I always thought I saw the mental similarity between the two, so I decided to start learning to fight. I started when I was around 16 and I became world champion at 23, but it's all. I did
16 areas you start at 16. And when you decide to do this, I know very little about kickboxing. But my guess is that that's not something that you're just like naturally good at,
right? I think you can have you do there. Certainly some Talent.
You can be naturally good at it fighting very much, like chess is also a thinking man's sport. I've at 87 fights. My nose has never been broken, right? You see the fighters that look like Fighters? They're not as good as the fighters at. Don't look like fires. Those are the ones you got worried about. Yep. Right. So it's certainly a thinking man's sport. It's certainly tactics. Certainly fighting's, very simple. Fighting's, like tag, if you were to play tag in slow motion, it's extremely simple. It's easy, but it's hard because things are happening quickly, right? That's all fighting is. It's not complicated movements. They move.
Hand. You can see a gap, you hit them or you slide, you move the side if she's everything happens. So fast. That's all it is. So, but the only
difference with kickboxing is it's not just your hands, right? And kind of punching, there's this whole element of like hip mobility and flexibility and the ability to kick that, right? And not only to kick somebody in the shin, but to be able to kick him in the head, take I let like there's a there's an added level of complexity. When you go from boxing, to something that looks more like a UFC or kick.
Yeah. In some ways. Yes, there's an
Of complexity but also in other ways, there's an added level of Simplicity, be okay. Well because in boxing, you have less weapons so you have less to worry about, but you've left to hurt him with, whereas in kickboxing, you have more weapons, you have more to worry about. We have more to her in with. So, in some ways like, in boxing, it's harder to find a way to hurt him, even though you have less to worry about wars, and kickboxing or UFC, there's always a way to RM, right? So I wouldn't say ones necessarily harder than the other. I just chose kickboxing because it was the only gym I could run to, in my father, my mother and father split up. I loved my father with all my heart but chess
doesn't pay that much and he loves booze and gambling and women. So he was broke when we were in England with my mother, the British social system give you a like elves government housing. So we were on welfare effectively so she had no car and I was working, I was going to school and I was also working in a fish market and I would carry boxes of ice like 30 kilo box advice from 7 a.m. till 6 p.m. every day for no money so I needed a gym where I could run to couldn't, there's no, the Wake me to get there was before we were, I couldn't afford taxis so the nearest gym I could run to was a
Boxing gym and not a boxing gym. And that's kind of how I ended up kickboxing. My coach was a Bosnian special forces guy, and he was there and that's
it. So when you walk in at 16, do you want to like, go compete competitively? Do you just want to like, learn how to fight? What's the thought
process? I was just perpetually board. I think I really don't understand people who say they lack motivation in life because I'll make this extremely clear if you're not pushing and striving for something life is so mundane. I've always had this problem with literal crippling
Perpetual boredom. I was bored. I had no money. I'm carrying boxes of ice, I'm a smart guy. I'm not playing chess anymore, right? This is I'm 34. And house is quite a few years ago before the internet before. Facebook was all big and nothing. What do you do with your life was there to do? I thought the all I need to do something which drains me so that I can go to sleep at night without frustration. And if I kick box, if I run three miles to the gym and then fight for three hours and run, three miles home. At least I can sleep. I literally couldn't sleep. I live, I wouldn't say it's ADHD but I was just frustrated. And then
Top of that. I've always had this huge frustration in regards to money, even though I was poor, I'd grow up around a bunch of other poor kids. And we'd be walking to school or walk into college on a Ferrari would drive past and I go all cool Ferrari and I'd say doesn't that annoy you know like what do you mean? I'd be like he knows he's hacked The Matrix, don't you see? How does he have four hundred grand for a car? He knows something? We don't know. Are you annoyed that there's people out there, living a lifestyle that we can't ever aspire to? We're never gonna work and a job and pull this off. Doesn't this bother you?
And they'd all be like, no, but me, it was, I was always angry. I was always angry. I'm not angry, in a go to jail way, but just in a, I was angry. I was like, something isn't right. Something doesn't add up. So, kickboxing was my answer. I just start kicking kicking people's ass and I felt a little bit better. That was kind of how it
worked. At what point did you realize you were like world class at this?
So when I my first day in the gym, I walk in my coach, it was for Bosnian men men, I was a child was four balls. He had met in this tiny little terrible. Jim is it was not like a commercial gym or a commercial class.
And he said, can you fight? And I
said, yeah, I've done karate for a few years that I got not clean out my first day, of course, and I guess they expected me to never come back, but I kept coming back and my coach said, to me, look after about a year, he said, look, I want to put you into a fight and he took me down to a town called Southend-on-Sea and my first flight wasn't kickboxing. My first fight was actually MMA, and it must be a little over a year because I was 18. And I was fighting a 24-year old security, doorman and being a stupid American. I thought pounds and kilos were the same because I weighed in at like 82 pounds.
He weighed in at like, 90. No, I weighed in 82 kilo. He weighed in at 90 kilo, which is 8 kilo difference. Which is almost like 20 pounds. And I was like, to my coach, is that a big difference? He's like, no. No, don't worry about it. That's okay. But did that in thinking back? A 20 pound difference. A big difference in fighting, right. And I got in there and I want, I didn't win necessarily through skill, but I just kept going. And I just out gasps Tim and towards the end, I'm just on top of him. Just punch him in the face, right? And now I'm only 18 years old. So from there, my coach was like, okay, you have some potential and and it for a long time it was I believe.
It was my only way out because, like, once again, before the internet and stuff, I'm going to college or finish college. I don't believe in University because I'm too smart to get in debt for formal education. I'm too smart for that junk. So I finished College, I'm working these sales jobs, I was always a good salesman. So I'm working sales jobs, I'm bringing in, you know, 3,000 4,000 a month, whatever. But I thought, my only way to get rich. Rich is fighting. I couldn't think of another way to get rich and I didn't fight only to get rich, but I saw a light at the end of the tunnel. So that's all I wanted to do was just fight fight
fight and so
What point do you go fight for the first world championship?
So, I fight for my first ever World Championship on two days, notice? So, I'm in Slovakia, there was a town. I'm gonna tell everyone. Now in this podcast and give the secret away, if you go, if you're bored right now, if you're watching this, in an on the internet load up, Google Maps, right? And there's a town called could sheets a KO. SI c e and it's on the opposite end of Slovakia to Bratislava. So, Bratislava is to Capital and then of course, she'd say on the other side, it's four and a half hours drive from brass lava. It's about four hours drive from Warsaw in about 4 hours drive from
From Budapest is in the middle of nowhere, but all the villages and all the towns. I want around this little town, every hot girl with an about 400 square kilometers lived in this town. Because there's no, there was nowhere else to go, right? And they were all there. And when I was going there, this is pre EU. They didn't have to Euro and me interest in used to go there on holiday because we would clean up. And when I say, clean up since your brother, my brother, I want to say clean up. I don't mean clean up, like, you clean up on holiday with some in Mexico. I mean clean up with tens like supermodels. It was unbelievable. And a beers
30 cents and were the only men. There speaks English. It was so much fun. So used to go to this little town. I'm saying it now because it's completely ruined cuz they built an airport in the new European Union came along. I knew that all the hot girls have left. They all live in Switzerland now and they're all done to buy and it's all ruined. This is all before Instagram and all that crap. Right? Instagrams. Ruined the world because back then a hot, girl, be hot and should be stuck in her town. Now she's hot and she's into my right. So this is The Game's different, right? But um, so I was in cause she'd say and then I got a phone call from a mere saying of world title. Fight in two days. Also, true, drunk at the time, an awesome.
Here. I'm here with my coach, sorry. Okay. I was a Bosnian Muslim. He fought in Yugoslavia. Conflict. Got shot. Six times didn't die. That's a mirror, right? So, we still like a father to me today. And
I must have been crazy. I was like, okay, I can't explain. And I want to say this in a way where it's truly understood. When I say, I didn't give a shit if I lived or died. I don't mean that in a sad suicidal way. I mean, that in an empowered charging at the gunfire way back. Then I didn't think I had anything that really made me really give a shit about living. Not know. I do not know dude to do sad way just in a. Let's go out in a blaze of glory then I'm not rich. I don't have nothing.
I'm just banging girls, it's a vacuole, is, who is this guy? So it was against the French World Champion. Jean-Luc Benoit was his name and the opponent pulled out and I needed a guy on two days, notice and I had to lose six kilos, which is around 13 or 14 pounds in two days. So easier hard. That's hard bro. 13 pounds in two
days along weight to lose.
So I just start stopped eating, stop drinking sitting and saunas spitting. All the war just dying. Finally, made weight went to France. Fault him 12 rounds. My first-ever 12-round fight as well. Fought him and they
The decision to him. But I was robbed. I beat him and we obey him, I'll be him. I didn't knock him out but I beat him. And
is this one of the four World Championships or this is the
fifth? No, there's no, no. Yeah, well should be. Yeah, but the tape was so convincing. We, the tape was actually sent off to the iska, the fighting organization and they Command Deck. Demand a rematch. That's the a new I won right? Okay. Look he's France. It was he's French. It was in France and fighting as a lot of politics to it. You have to understand. I mean you have seized UFC the real big ones but
Outside of the smaller ones. It makes more sense for the French promotion of a French Champion. They'll sell a lot more tickets and a lot more pay-per-views with a French Champion.
Basically, you knock them out or it's going to
go to his condo like that, right? So they commanded a rematch, I rematch them. Seven months later, I'm knocked him on the 8th and I became world champion.
Okay, why keep going? Once you've won,
there's always a new mountain to climb. I mean that's kind of as a good question because that's also kind of the reason I quit because it's like, why keep going? Well, there's always someone new to fight and I'm still not financially where I want to be.
And I don't know what else I want to do with my life. So I'll keep going, right? So I fought again, I'd be another Frenchman and then I fought again. IB to Dutch guys to become four-time world champion. But one day, I woke up and I was like, it's becoming five-time world champion going to improve my life. I mean, I've already got. Do I need five
belts? How much money, do they pay for these fights?
Okay, so first things first fighting is the worst career path in history. Why it also warps career path in history? It because it involves a degree of
Of probability much like modeling or being a musician, right? You could be a fantastic musician. You can be better than every known musician in the world, but if you don't know the right people or right place, right time, come up with the right tune, you're just not gonna be famous same with models. You have the models, we all know there's a whole bunch of women pretty earn em who are just doing the little blow level model circuit, not making any money. There's a degree of probability involved with it. That's the first thing. The second thing is it is show business. It's not all about how good you are. It's how good of a show you can sell. So,
If you're a really really good but nobody's interested in watching you fight. You don't get fights. Why would someone put? Let's say, I was
amazing. And I be, I be everyone's ass, but no one pays
to watch me. Who would give me a fight against their Cash Cow? I'm gonna smoke him and no one wants to see me fight. Like, so basically like a
super technical fighter that has no flare no personality. No personally, I think it's not very entertaining to watch, but you're good. It doesn't really sell
tickets. It doesn't really sell tickets, and it wasn't for money, right? You can, you can be so boring and so good.
You make it to the top, you know, Triple G is yes. So Triple G, did it that way, but he's like from Kazakhstan, he barely talks. He's had four hundred fights, and now he's known at 38, like, he beats every, he beat so much ass. They'd eventually say, you know what, okay, we'll put him in there, but you could do a, Conor McGregor, have a few fights with a big mouth and do better, right? So that's that's another element of it. There's a huge element of the business who's
better set up for their career to be Triple G or becoming McGregor,
Conor McGregor's more famous. It's show business. We live in an attention economy, the economy we live in now.
Is based on intention if you can get attention in your direction for any reason, bad or good, you will be successful, the cardassians have no reason to be successful. It's attention to where we live in now and there's so much information and so much entertainment around garnering people's attention stealing people's attentions difficult to do. But if you can find a way to do that, you're going to do well in Triple G has money now, whatever but I'm saying what's the odds of doing a triple G having 400 fights never losing like like no one can do that by him. He's literal one in a billion so it's a really bad career path for that.
Also, there's a huge luck element. You have one bad fight one bad night, one bad injury, that's it, and for the Hoover. Yeah, and for the first few years of you're fighting, you're getting paid, 1,000 bucks, 3,000 bucks, 2,000 bucks. It's not even your you need to work on the side. You're going up all your free time to get punched in the face. Like it's a terrible decision. Like, I don't know why I decided to do it, but eventually, once I was world champion, I'd get 100 Grand of fight, but I'd give 20% to my manager, then the UK with the UK taxes, 4050 percent would disappear. And sometimes in, you only fight twice a year or whatever I was.
Only not rich. I didn't consider me
like, 30 to 40 percent of
money. Yeah, and I didn't consider myself rich, like, 30, 40 Grand chunks, got twice a year, maybe three times a year. Living in London, London, rents need a car. You trying, you know, like you're not rich in any way. And that's actually, the reason I retired, because I woke up one day and I thought I'm giving six hours a day of absolute focus and energy to this. And I believe, I'm smart enough. That if I put that much tenacity into something else, I can be a multi-millionaire. I truly believe that I was like, I've realized now.
I've reached a pinnacle of kickboxing, my choices either to change over to MMA, which I was offered to do earlier in my career. But at the time, the kickboxing contract paid more money. I had to pay the bills so I won't kick boxing turns over to MMA, learn to wrestle change over to UFC bubbeleh, but this is also like seven eight years ago, where even the UFC didn't pay the money. It pays now. But
do you see? Still doesn't pay that much money from what I understand
know if you're like top five or Champion? Yeah, but most of the dudes are going to see there in the prelims. They're getting 10 grand to fight 9 Grand. If I thought this is nothing, right? So it would be like starting my career all over again.
At the age of 28, I thought I don't have the gumption to start. Again, I'd I've done, I've been through hell for this. I've broken my hand eight times. My ribs have been broken, you know, I don't want to do this all over again. So,
so what do you do when you realize that? Hey, maybe I don't want to keep fighting.
I Rely decide to get rich rich.
What is that mean to you? When you set when you're sitting there you're getting you know Thirty forty thousand dollars, kind of net on a perfect basis is Rich to you like hey I want a couple hundred thousand dollars, a million bucks twenty million dollars a billion dollars. I want 30 or 40,000 every month, 30 or 40,000 every month about half a million bucks a year gift?
Take okay, well, I had that much money. I could do whatever I
wanted. Okay, that's what I decided. I what step one that you do
so Step One is, maybe that's how we ended up here, together my friend, Step One is, I tried decided to be very logical about it. Chess player, right?
Like I want money, what is money?
How do
banks work? How does Credit work? What's fractional? Reserve banking all these things. We now know to be the biggest cons of the century, right? So I'm sitting there researching money for days, and days, and days, and then I get more mad because I'm like, whoa, whoa, money's trash and I don't have any now, I'm really now, I'm really annoyed right? I thought I thought like everyone else did that you know, everyone puts their money in the bank.
And the money, the bank takes some of other people's money and lends it out. I didn't know they invented it from the sky. I still I still at that point thought money was linked to Gold. I didn't know nothing. So I'm learning all this stuff and I'm getting really angry. I'm like now this is really annoying me. So um anyway I got a piece of paper there and I'm in my research phase and it started start writing down some dude on YouTube. I don't know who he was some dork. He was a pro gold guy is before I'm a big homies probably around then but like early who's a pro gold Guy saying, buy gold, buy gold, buy
gold and
he was saying the
We an asset liability eccentric cetera. So I started trying to write down y hat, doesn't have an apartment. I would BMW like I'm in good shape, but I already used that fighting, you know, what can I do? I can play chess. I'm just writing down the things I have and what I'm good at. And then I kind of realized I was like, I've got like eight girlfriends, because because I was traveling the world. And if you win, you get a ring, girl, was kind of like just she's banging the winner, right? You win a world title, you get to choose to Ringo. You want this for easy, right? So, I had a girlfriend Slovakia, I had a girlfriend in France side,
The girlfriend in England girl for all these
girlfriends. Do they know about each other? No. Okay but they find out pretty
soon. So I had all these girlfriend so I'm like maybe I could open a strip club in like, be a pimp, you know, be a gangster about it that it and then that opening shortcut that's a little bit. First thing you thought about was over to strip club. I thought I have these beautiful girls how can I this is before liked? Which existed, it's also. What can I do with these hot girls? Like it's just an asset, right? There's these girls on a law, them were messaging me. They thought I was his millionaire world champion. They all want to come London live with me and
I
was a big boy millionaire and all this stuff, so it's like they do with the social media, but well, partially because of that, and also, because they met me, I turn up, I fight, I win, I win the world title. I leave were texting each other. They don't, they assume. I'm this big boy, right? So, I'm kind of like, what am I gonna do? What am I going to do? I thought may, I investigated strip clubs way too much money. But this these this asset class of beautiful women was kind of on my mind for a few days. And then by absolute coincidence, I stumbled upon somewhere on the internet. I was on some
one of those websites we used to download like free games and bullshit from and in the corner somewhere said, hot girls want to talk to you now or something so hot girls. So click on that. Not because I was interested because I thought I have hot girls and it was one of those webcam websites and I was like, ah, so these girls sit here and talk to dudes for money, so I'm gonna get my girls to
their naked, they're just talking.
How does it work? It's 50/50, I mean, it depends on the girl, depends what she wants to do, but the the majority of the job is not based around being
Majority of the job is based on being entertaining and being easy to talk to. And the guys who are talking to, you need to find you that you need to remember their name. Remember their dog's name? You have to be smart, you can't just be a girl, be a bimbo, me naked and make money. You have to be really smart Charming, interesting. Happy all the time, positive and I thought I'm going to try this. So I messaged all five my girlfriend, still denied, a job for them, explain them. All is going to do, is launch this company for of them. Agreed. All for flew, inside around the same table. They're all like, who is she? Who is she, who she? I'm like, we're all my girlfriend's two more left.
Left. And, and then a to stayed, and that was the beginning of my little attempt at a webcam Empire. And I put the girls there. And, and my role in all was, I did all the tech side of stuff, which is the first thing, of course. And then also, and I get called a pimp a lot, but I never reason I use the term because I don't see it as a negative term. I see it as positively inspirational and motivating person. I was, I'd motivate the girls. I'd make sure they did their job properly. If they had a bad day online, I'd come up with a good excuse for them all. It's been a football game. It's been really busy. Don't worry. You're so beautiful.
Hold on, be upset, you did better than hers. She, she did the best today, did I keep everything organized, but the schedules together, all that kind of stuff. And is it hard? It's hard because women have to want to work for you. Women have to want to obey you. Okay, it's hard and you don't do that. This is one of the biggest misconceptions. I really want to clear this up. People in the movies and stuff, pimps are like aggressive mean, men, complete opposite. Pimps are more like James Bond, James balls. A pimp, he sleeps with a girl to get information. He doesn't care about
Her. He is absolutely not really a pimp. He doesn't hit her. He makes her love him. She does what he wants. He uses sex as a weapon to reward her, and then he disappears that James Bond is absolutely not really a pimp. So I say pimp, because I phone calls me a pimp online. Trust is go. Haha, you're a pimp I only get offended. So no beautiful women wanted to work for me and they want to work for me because I displayed supreme Supreme competence and they knew if they work for me, that make a lot of money. So whenever I was out, I'd meet a waitress and see who you're working. 10 hours a day for pennies. You can work 10 hours a day for me. Make 10 grand a month for 20 grand a month. And over time, I just
This big, this big little what Empire of webcam girls at one point. I had four locations 75 girls working for me and
I'll do we say locations. Like, explain, what goes into a location, I just rent houses. All right, so you rent a house and in the house you just literally, hey, go live here. There's like technology set up. And then you can basically just sit in front of the computer and literally be on the other end of one of these webcams. And guys are paying by the minute, by the hour or whatever. Yep, to talk to you, it's their choice, whether
They are doing it, fully clothed, just talking getting naked, whatever, and then you're taking some kind of it. Yeah,
basically. So I girls who would live in the
house and I was pretty impressive. I just broke down the webcampus banks. You don't know background information,
you nailed it. So they these girls who lived in the house would have set amount of hours they want to do and then we'd have rooms that they could book in and do x amount of hours of girl could come and do one a week or whatever. We have rooms, they could share and then on. Yeah, very much exactly. Like you said, they'd go online to do their hours they'd have their regular customers to get their money and then
I take around half of the money around.
You
take 50% around 50%, okay, is that higher low? Compared to the rest of
the, I'll tell you why, it's very low, it slow, because every time a girl would quit and try and do it by herself. She'd make a fraction of the money overall, because she hasn't got the instruction. She hasn't got the motivation, she's just lazy with it, right? And women have a very different mentality to money than men. If you show a woman how to make a thousand dollars in an hour, she'll think I only have two, I only have to work an hour a week, we're to show a man, how to make a thousand dollars an hour. He thinks I can make 18,000 votes a day.
That's the difference between us. So if I had a girl working for me making 20,000, she got 10, I got 10. If she quits, she'd make three for herself if that. So they made Nothing by themselves, they didn't have the instruction. Relation are there. Other
people like you doing this at the time?
At the time? I didn't know anybody else
doing it. Like. Okay,
I've now discovered in certain countries like in Romania and the places I Live. Now there's a lot of boys doing this is that this is big business in Colombia Brazil. This is big and all the big models on only fans and webcam nearly all of them work for men. Nearly
Single, I would say, now if you see a model and she's
really big, she's working for a man. Okay, this is fascinating because take only fans that we know. It's a massive business, right? It's as much of a technology business has any other business. Absolutely people want to talk about, I think people get very uncomfortable talking about some of it, just because there's this element of like sex and exploitation and whatever,
Where's the line, right? And I asked you because I think that you've seen kind of different variations of this. You know, a lot of the players Etc is it this is just a business and people can do what they want to do, both as the customer side and the other and it's like a Marketplace is it know, there's like ethical concerns. Like, how do you
view I have. I have absolutely zero. Ethical concerns, I totally, I totally view. It free market capitalism, and the reason is this, if I were to shut down my all, my webcam operation is a little bit today. So for Rose, working for me. If ought to shut it all down, it's kind of like,
Alcoholic walks into your liquor store and you deny him, vodka, does he stop being an alcoholic or does he buy it somewhere else? Like you can't stop. These guys want to spend money and on top of it it's actually quite a positive industry. I'm telling you now and I'll say this here, webcam girls, the prevented more male suicide than anything than in that. Any therapist, any group of therapies? Anything you can possibly think of there are dudes out there who the only pleasure they have in their world, is knowing that this beautiful nineteen-year-old and Ukraine knows their name and remember their birthday. That is their pleasure on the planet. And really, I'm telling
You now it's far closer to therapy than it is to sexist. Webcam industry. These dudes genuinely enjoy looking after the girl, the girl genuinely becomes friends with the dudes and overall, it's a very positive thing. I've had girls work for me who had one boyfriend, their entire life and their staved. They met him when they were 17. Now, the 25 there were the same guy. I have some girls working for me
who. So they basically their interrelationships, this
is lawyer work. It's just money. It's just work, right? It's no guy touches them. It's All Digital. Eyes is all just pixels on a screen. Obviously, you have the odd girls.
And she'll be a cam girl and also a prostitute and stuff. But if you can make Thirty forty thousand dollars a month from a computer. Why would you go be a hooker? Why would you get up and get dressed and go out there? Why would you even do that? Like a lot of these girls are a lot more pure than men will give him credit for
this is fascinating to me because I think that people look at it the exact same rightmost of like the general public. If they hear you talking about webcam girls and like this whole business Etc. They me like, oh that's prostitution. Yeah, but it coming from like a technology standpoint not having
Thought a lot about this before. There's a very interesting world where you start to think about like, okay. If it's a real person then there's ethical concerns. What happens if all of a sudden. It's just literally a avatar. Yep. Right. And it's just looks really, really real and that's starting to
happen now. Oh really? Yeah. We're starting to feel like there's a couple of accounts on some of these webcam things and it's like a Barbie and it is a girl controlling the Barbie. But she's like controls Barbie. She's a personality real Barbie. No, literally. It's a Barbie doll. Oh, and she's like controlling the Barbie has a personality for the Barbie selected.
It's weird, but the world. Hey, the world is going on in the world is weird. But my point is, I didn't have ethical concerns because the girls, no one exploited. The girls, I met girls rich, I didn't exploit. Women are
their female bosses and any of these
organizations you do have. So you do usually have like a girl boss. Okay, this is usually the best cam girl. Okay, so you do have a girl boss but there always has to be a man at the top. There's never because women won't give their money to a
woman. What do you mean
if you had a woman who's in charge of a bunch of
Women all the women at the bottom would look up and say why she knock him? Why am I not, why am I giving her money? Whereas a man that can go. Ah, but he's the man, if they truly respect you, they understand, you know, things, they don't know. Basic things, my friend
basically, think so no. No, woman's ever run one of these
organizations, I don't know, maybe, but I never met one. Every man I know who's doing, this was a man and the women liked even if the way, even if he wasn't sleeping with all the
girls and I should get one of them to come in here and do an interview and explain
this. Absolutely but even even if even if you're not sleeping with all your girls, you're obviously seeing with some whatever but you
To be a wait, hold, you can't say that offhand comment just keep going like
65% of them but I'm
65 percent of the people who worked for you. Yeah, you're
sleeping when they wanted to. I mean if they have a woman respects you enough to work for you then she respects you like every it's like the old adage of the woman at the office liking her boss, right? You're her boss. She's naked in your house. You've made her, millions and millions. You got a Lambo out front, you're the Big G. What do you what's going to like? Come
on. So can I put this forward? One of the things, I think a lot about over the last
Twelve months or so. Okay is there's a lot of things that happen in the United States that are completely seen as offencive exploitative incorrect, Politically Incorrect, the whole nine yards. Yeah, other countries is actually way worse. Yep. So for example, the United States there's a lot of people who get very, very upset some for Right, Reasons some for, not about racism in America, right? And the way that I kind of think about it is like racism exists, all over the world or at, right.
And we should do everything we can to not have racism exists, right? And on top of that there are certain situations where it's more likely to happen than not correct, right? And so if we can identify that stuff then like let's address the real problems and not screw around kind of crying wolf when they're, it's not real correct. Now I say all of that as like I think that most people when they look at a problem like racism they come at it from a genuine hey we should solve this. Yeah. Right.
There's other countries in the world where this isn't not only is not a conversation, it is a thousand
times worse. Go anywhere in Asia
well, and by the way, that doesn't make it
okay, but it's just the reality of the world, right?
It's just the the relative component of this is very fascinating because it's much more of a conversation, the United States than it is in many other countries as well. And so you start to really kind of peel apart. Here is the conversation is important United States when we solve the problem, but these other countries are actually
Racism or other types of issues that the United States now is kind of facing. It's actually really Antiquated in some ways, completely agree, right? And so you've spent what the last, how many years in Romania, five years, okay? And then, before that lived, most of your life, it all throughout Europe, right?
How
much worse office? The United States versus these countries and vice versa.
That's a really good question. But you just nailed it because in some countries, the conversation really isn't a conversation like, I live in Romania, now, right? I'm not a Romanian.
I live in Romania. Now the I think it in the last census it was 99.7% inside of people inside of Romania are ethnic Romanian like 9907 so nobody goes there, really? And it is, you do get some interesting observations. I was Bucharest. The capital city people always say to me. Hey, hey, are you okay? Okay over there, there's Mafia and stuff and I say, look, you live in London, don't worry about me. I'm fine book arrest. The capital city is extremely safe, real, it's extremely safe. Now, I'm not going to lie to you. Yeah, there's Mafia
But the mafia boys are not interested in your wallet like that. The chance of random violence is statistically 0. If you have a big mouth and make big enemies, you're gonna go missing right? But that's the same nearly anywhere in the world of going to run around running your mouth. You can do that here in Miami. You get in trouble right. If you show people, respect the odds of random violence in Romania, is basically zero and just so we're
clear as we go through this conversation, you're half black half white, half black, half white, all right, and going to a place like Romania. Yeah, 100% white. 99 percent white, ya know.
And I'm saying, well, it's not, it's not a 9%, why everyone's white? And so, in a good case, people just think you're
tan. Yeah. They think I'm 10 but even, even some of my friends who came to visit me, who are black. They don't really have a problem with it bun. We're never going to be seen as Romanians.
That's my point is more. So, it's just very obvious because the country is so homogeneous. In terms of the skin comes out.
We're never going to be seen as Romanians and I it would be insulting for me to try and be a Romanian. This is what's kind of unique because in America, you can turn up here, you can look Japanese. You can be from Japan, but if you speak fluent English,
Latin accent, you're American right? But you can go Japan and speak
in that is a very aspirational thing that and heavily encouraged by the country that and not seen as a negative is actually has a positive. Hey, we want people to come here. Completely that are contributing to society that are smart. We want them to become America's The American Dream, all dat stuff. Ya basically, you're saying other countries. That's not true.
Absolutely. No. You can go to Japan and speak fluent Japanese without an accent. Be perfect. You don't look Japanese. You are not Japanese and you will never be Japanese. You'll never be treated like a Japanese and man Anna, man.
Every man out there does not want his daughter with you because you're not Japanese. It's the same thing in Romania to a degree, right? I was in a taxi and it was 3:00 in the morning and these two girls were walking were in the taxing. They were walking through the park and I said, I still find it. Very strange that girls walk alone at night here everywhere. There's no problems and the taxi driver said to me. Yes but they're Romanian girls, a Romanian wouldn't hurt a Romanian girl as in. It's like why would someone hurt her? Because we're all Romanians, that's completely gone from the West. So that was like, mind-boggling to me. But then also, if the police
Stop me or something. I am treated with additional suspicion. Oh, especially as have a nice car, right, I've 17. Nice cars don't wanna brag, but when I've 17 supercars, but if I get stopped in land or the Ferrari at night and they come up and that there's a foreign place, a British played car, and they come up, and they find out, I'm American, they are more. They do call for backup. They are very sketchy to like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Is it. Because you're American because you're half black, or because
the car, or I think it's a combination of everything, all three, but I've been in the car with my Romanian Friends, when the police stopped them and it's
Are more relaxed as far more like, hey, you were speeding. Uh, then they're like, yeah, I'm speeding to and they're not angry, like its kind of interesting as well because an American cop, if you speed will be genuinely mad at you for breaking the law where the remaining called be more like we all do it. But I got you, ha ha and they all laugh and have a joke and then you pay a bribe and it goes away. It's like it's very much more chilled, but when I get stopped, it's not chilled, I'm
not a Romanian would American cops. Do more chill. If they got the bribe,
maybe maybe, maybe, but then but then also no one runs to the police. Please never get shot. Like it's just a different environment.
Completely like there's, there's never been. I think the police have killed one person in like 22 years or something like no one. It's just a different environment is really, really safe place overall. So it's kind of cool from that perspective and you're right all the. But the way I'm treated in Romania in America, if I was treated that way in America, I'd be kicking off and us is racist, but they're racist, they are racist. But I just think, you know, I'm in on their Turf and I respect it. So it's like it is what it is.
Kind of almost sounds like it's accepted and therefore
Nobody argues about it, whereas in the United States, right? The expectation. Is that right? No. Racism is the default right there. As they're almost feels like, racism
is the default? Well, the thing is, you have to recognize about races and I'm saying, this is a half black half white person, right? I think we often confuse racism with pattern recognition and I know this sounds bad but it's true. If I walk down the street and a purple man attacks me and then I walk down the street. Again, the purple man attacks me the two years later when I'm walking down the street and I see a purple man, I'm going to be more intimidated.
If it was a green man, for example that's pattern recognition. This is how humans learn to not go stroke Lions. Because remember, hey remember that guy struck the line and ripped his head off. I'm not going to do that. Here is pattern recognition, right? So we also have to address the fact that certain people in certain positions are going to unfortunately have a bias towards certain things because of a pattern they've recognized, that's not racism, right? So I understand that. The Romanian police for a while, they had problems with Russians and a few other nationalities, anyone who wasn't remaining was seen as a criminal, and they, and I'm turning up in a super fast car.
I am not Romanian they're going to want to get me out my car. Searched my car, get the drug dogs, did it? Because that's just the pattern. They've recognized the biggest problems in the biggest busts they've ever had have been non-ethnic Romanians. So I just respect the, I'm not gonna sit there and let it bother me. Give you a hard time. They give me a semi hard time, but I'm also super friendly. I know how to get through life. This is another thing that people don't understand about racism. I'm telling you, now, people say America's racist, blah, blah, blah, fine. You could get the probably the most racist cop in America and I'm not going to say all the cops.
Fix. I've seen him do some dumb stuff course I have. But in general, I like to believe that if you show some respect 99% of the time, the show you respect back, regardless of what color they are, you know what I'm saying? When the police stopped me, I just show absolute respect. I'm just like I love Romania. I'm so thank you for letting me be here that after like 10 seconds. Like okay school. But like if I was getting out like hey, why are you stopping me stopping? Because I'm foreign did it? I'm a big dude. Now they're gonna be getting a hand on the color. Why they're just stupid? I don't know, I think a lot of people make a lot of stupid decisions out of here. But yeah, in terms.
Of racism. America is absolutely not the most racist country in the world. If you travel. Like I have, I've been to 72 countries. Basically, every country is more racist in America. I was in Iraq, long story. I was in Iraq. They're all racist against each other for tribe or for last name. Where'd you go? I was in Iraq. I was in Baghdad. About three years ago, there was a member of parliament, want to become the sports Minister and to become Sports Minister. He wanted to fill a stadium and have a kickboxing fight in front of everyone, but I didn't want to lose. So we fixed it and because he fixed it, he wanted
World champions to come to give it credibility and you want me to give a speech afterwards and he paid me a bunch of money and got me a government pass in a private jet from Romania to go to Iraq. I'm kind of like is this Stadium going to just blow up. You know, we were in Iraq and you're like in the stadium. Me and Tristan her down on the grass like far away from the bleachers, or just like, man. But, but even
is almost anyone else in the world of back, you know, when you're in Iraq that would be a weird thing to say.
But yes, I do know what it's like to be in Iraq. So okay, so, you know, right? So yeah and so I've been all over the world and there's racism out
Everywhere Africa's completely racist, they're all racist fraud who to look up your history. There were at war with each other for basically no reason. Humans are tribalistic, right? And the number one way you're going to destroy racism, if you really want to destroy, it is to stop talking about it. Stop
discussing it. You think that's the solution?
I think it's the beginning of a solution. I think if we just look at police brutality as opposed to police brutality versus white black Asian, let's look at a police brutality right now. We have to stop Asian hate thing going on and yeah, sounds good idea. Okay, stop Asia.
Hey, did you see some Asian person? Get beat up and it's on the internet that uh, I'm guy guarantee yesterday when that Asian person got be up a black guy, got his ass whupped on a white guy. Got his ass whupped, just to thank people get ass-whuppings. Like why do we have to pull race on the ass-whoopin, slop ass-whuppings. Still, why why out of racing? Stop police brutality. Why out of race it? Why are we adding race to everything? If all you look for is the same thing and you add a race tank to everything then you're going to see racism, that's how it works. That's how the world works. It's like when you buy a
Ambo. And you thought you never saw a lamb before now, you see them everywhere in your mad, if you thought your special new not the same thing. If all you look for, do you talk about the same thing here and identify it, right? So we need to stop all police brutality against all people. Even against sexy caramel, kickboxing, world champions, leave me alone. That's how this is other world needs to be, but his two assistants fixation on race and to tie into maybe the Bitcoin argument a little bit. But I truly believe this is propagated by the ruling elites on purpose like because when a black billionaire,
It's a white billionaire. You think there's any racism? Do you think they care? Of course. He's a billionaire. I am a billionaire. Both are Yachts. Are in Monaco. He's from Algeria. He stole all the gold. I'm a stock market. Whatever, there's no racism. The racism is for the poor people, because if you keep the poor people divided, they can't wake up long enough to do what I did and read about how money works because if they do that we got big trouble, right? Then the slaves will wake up. You know what? Id program the slaves. So you have to convince the
Slaves that it's not the monetary system fault that you're broke is not the monetary systems fault that you continue to work for a set number of dollars in the price of houses, just keep going
up and up, and
up. It's not the monetary systems fault. It's the white man's fault or the black man's fault, or the Asian people's fault someone else's fault because of the poor people all fight each other, they can't wake up long enough to look up and go. Oh there's not actually that many of them. Ah okay you know and we can change things and this is what's crazy about it. I think all this stuff feminism racism.
All these things. I think they're all control. Mechanisms have to keep the poor people fighting amongst each other but it's the poor people. All unite that is much harder to control us. That's all I really truly believe it's happening. I believe we live in a world now where the people who are truly in charge of the world are scrambling, trying to find new mechanisms to control people, they're scrambling because the internet has allowed us to think for ourselves, the old mechanisms of controlling people. The old propaganda machine like, Vietnam War. I'll tell him. They took one of our boats, put on the news. Now, we can go send young men to die in Vietnam. I was in Vietnam, you got
I'm military-aged. Now when I go Vietnam and we're all happy and smiles, right? Four years ago, the be shooting me like all those people died there for a while it's stupid. The whole thing is stupid and they lied on the news about why we even went there. But now that we have the internet and how people can look, in fact, check things themselves to like, okay, well our propaganda mechanisms, they still work Coronas proved a law that they still work but it's getting harder and harder. So, we need to distract the people, we distract them. Did, you know, all the police are racist? All of them, every single police officers racist. You know, they're gonna kill you.
A reason. Did you know that it's a control mechanism? Who do
you think is in charge of the
world?
Only go. Alex Jones. I'm a level of 1 to 10. How Alex Jones do want me to
go now, I want you to tell me what you think, like, if you had to say, all right, there's all of this kind of coordination to some degree that's happening. Specifically around mainstream, media around the narratives that are created. And they're done with a specific purpose in mind who are the people who are planning that or or trying to coordinate all
this. Okay. So I don't think it's like dark room. It is actually kind of like this but I don't want to
Imagine I'm thinking as like dark room dude sitting around making plans. It's kind of like that but it's just you know dinner clubs and golf clubs Etc. What I
truly not dark rooms lighted room
light lit rooms with. Yeah, let very fancy nice rooms. No, but what I truly believe it is is that every single human on earth tries to very best to propagate their worldview. For the same reason, we're doing this podcast, we're trying to explain to people how we think based on our own experiences and how we think the world should be right? So if you have a worldview and you try your best to propagate it, the more powerful you are, the more influence you have over people, the more likely you are to influence our worldview.
It's the same with any company, right? When you walk into your company at work you want to say look do this, do this, do this and people obey, you don't want to say do this, do this, do this, and people disobey. So, if you're a very, very important person and you're in charge of things and you control, I don't know all the food in a country. You don't want a minister that's going to give you trouble. Why would you want members of parliament to give you trouble? This is your country you basically owned all the land. So you want a Minister's gonna say yes sir no sir is your company. So the more powerful you are, the more likely you are to appoint people that enforce your worldview and there's certain people in the world today that have
So much influence. I don't even think they necessarily believe the doing anything evil but they think and view the world a certain way, and they use all of their political leverage, all of their friendships and all their financial leverage to try and point there the world in the direction they want it to go. And that's exactly what's happening. These are the people who control the world that will control everything, they control everything, they control the news. They decided I'm not going to give my political views, but the people who own the news channels, decided it was better. If Trump wasn't in the White House. They thought, you know what? He doesn't listen to us.
And I think I know best, and I want a president who's seen aisle and we'll sign anything we give him. So, let's get rid of trump. Let's get sleepy, Joe and let's do whatever it takes to put our guy there. So when I give him a pager legislation, 50 pages long, he doesn't even read it. Just signs it. Trump, he read it. Can't stand that guy. I got time for him. I'm trying to save the world. I'm a good person. I know what's best. You my family's been in charge forever. I know what the good things for the world are I'm not so old, it's really happening. People are really trying to force their world.
These people have huge
influence. Do you think that it's just the media or do you think it's technology
company? I think it's everything you. But how can it be everything? Because power corrupts and absolute power corrupts. Absolutely these people have so much control so much power. They decide they decide Truth at this point. It's not about truth is subjective. True-false doesn't exist right? If everyone in the world were to simultaneously agree that two plus two equals five then 2 plus 2. Now equals 5. It doesn't matter of math doesn't work anymore.
Or the whole world believes two plus two equals five. That's now true, if they control what people see and control, how people think, then they control. What's true? And what's false? Trump is racist because they said he's racist. He hasn't done anything racist but they've said he's racist to the point where Trump's not a racist. That's now true. These people now can literally Bend reality in real time. May I ask you a question, if there was a basketball game between some random people in the street, let's say, we were to go out there and get five people for each side basketball game until him the winner was gonna get ten thousand dollars, and there was no referee.
Do you think that somebody might try and cheat a little bit?
I think I would expect them to cheat.
Exactly. So if people out on the street will cheat for ten thousand dollars, you're telling me the people in charge of the world aren't going to cheat to keep control. They're not gonna lie, they're not gonna trick the general populace to keep us all as slaves. We're talking about cheating over a little basketball game, you're talking about they're not going to cheat and election.
You think to control the Free World? Of course, they'll cheat. This is humans will all cheat. This is the exact point these people in charge, of all this stuff, all they've ever done is cheat. Why would they play by the rules? You can't
risk losing, do you think that every election in every country is rigged?
So this is a really good question. So after the u.s. election was rigged which it was after they rigged usly, do you said I read? I say that because all the empirical evidence points, to the fact, it was rigged like like the fact that it's a longest count in history. Like, you can see the spike, the spikes of votes just
Cheering. I know, we're popping up all the boxes of votes appearing from the sky. The all the evidence. If you actually look at the evidence, the election, it doesn't make statistical sense. Now, that adds up, there's no way. There's no way Joe one that. I'll tell you another reason, I know it's rigged. I know it's rigged because Judge Judy, a good friend, National good friend of mine, but I love Judge Judy. She has a saying Judge. Judy has a saying, if it doesn't make sense isn't true, Hillary was supposed to beat Trump. Everyone knew Hillary was supposed to beat Trump Hillary. They put all over the news. She's a 99% chance of winning, she had.
All the support from the media companies, all the support for the political Elite. She supposed to be Trump. Trump won the political Elite and the elites behind things, start panicking. Just like I said, oh no, we no longer control everything from the Shadows because the president won't listen, we used to have presidents who obeyed the shadow figures. Trump won't obey the shadow figures. So they invent Russian collusion. They spend years, inventing Rush inclusion, trying to get rid of him, all they do is try and get rid of him. And I sat there with my brother and when when Biden won the democratic election, I said this elections rigged, I said it before the elections was why I said do you think
People who spent the last four years, inventing, charges trying to get rid of trump, are going to put up sleepy Joe, and let him get land slided. Do you think they're that stupid? If Trump beat Hillary, they using the people judge the world really believe sleepy. Joe's gonna do it. He didn't even campaign the whole time because they all knew what was in the bag. They said to Joe, don't worry my friend, it's in the bag, don't worry about it, take a nap, we got it, we got it. They rigged from the start. So of course it was absolutely gnarly rigged. It was rigged. And what's interesting is about three months ago, there was a military coup
Ooh in myanmar's you know that so three months ago there's a military coup. In myanmar's saw this on the news. I thought that's interesting and I looked into a bit in the recent military took over as because they said the elections were rigged. I was like, okay. And I looked into a little bit further, the tube part of the two political parties in Mayan Mar were around 51%, 49% back and forth for a while until the 90s, when one political party became very good friends, with the clintons, since then, they've won every single year by a huge margin. And the military is now taking the country back saying, all the elections are rigged. No one's voting for these people and they keep winning.
Do you know what voting machines they use? Which was same as the United States.
So now I realized the whole thing. Now, every now I know it's all fake, it's all fake, all of
its fake. Now, how does that explain somebody like Trump? Then
explain somebody like Trump because Trump was the first time they used their, this Trump was to wake up, call for these people, their traditional methods of control, the propaganda machine failed them for the first time in human history, and then it became now, it's become scramble Panic stations, right? Usually, it's put all over the news scare, the people, it'll be fine up. Until that point every single War Gulf War Vietnam War, and
Worked out right the first time ever Trump's bad Trump's racist he grabs girl's mother pussy. Hillary's the person you want to do tonight and I percent chance of winning. Don't waste your vote Trump's gonna lose. Trump's gonna lose time to lose and Trump won. They couldn't believe it. Why do you think he won? I think he won, because I actually thought until Corona that there are people out there in the world with half a brain, and I think people were tired of the political Elite. Nobody wants Biden. Go down the street. You see, do you want Biden or you just not like Trump. And if their program, the goal will like well, I didn't like Trump but no one's like
Yes, Joe Biden. Nobody nobody wants in his his his rallies were empty. Nobody wanted him, right? So after the propaganda machine failed them for the first time they started going. Okay, well, now, what do we do? Our propaganda machine doesn't work. So we have to do two things. First, we have to fix our propaganda machine and get strict with censorship. In fact Checkers, we have to fix our propaganda machines. The first thing I have to do, second thing we do is just rigged this because we ain't losing twice in a row. No way. For years, I haven't had absolute control over the world and it's an ego trip.
My entire life, my family since the dawn of human times is to begin of the monetary system. Is controlled everything. Ever gonna tell me is a four-year period where I couldn't snap my fingers, get what I want. This is unacceptable. You don't know who I am. Fix this rig, it, I don't care what it takes. What are the people going to do? What's amazing, is the people are in charge of the world. Now, they're doing stuff in broad daylight. They'll kill it, they'll kill Epstein in front of us all and they realized the people aren't doing anything. They've got a so divided, our lower level that we don't unite behind anything. So now they don't have
Hide things. They used to have to hide their crimes right now that it's like Epstein's in jail, they're sitting around the table. Well, I've seen might talk to the, we can't kill him. People will know who cares if they no kill him. Okay, boom, boom. Have only a few memes and the story. So now they don't have to hide what they do anymore. So everyone knows elections richt didn't even try and hide it. Mail-in voting were to take an extra 10 days to count and bought buses of votes, come out of nowhere, and it's all fair. Get over it. They don't even hide what they're doing anymore do.
The president matters know who the president is.
Well, I think Trump mattered because he was the last Bastion of resistance to the shadow figures, who truly run the world. I think, now, from here on out, is never going to matter because whoever's in there is in there because he has people above him who he complies with? That's what I believe. I believe Trump was the last hope of a president who actually had ideas and actually cared. Putin said this if you seen the clip of Putin, Putin said this in an interview they said what do you think of trump? And he said, I've been through free, United States presidents, you can Google this yourself gentleman. He said I've been through three u.s.
Presidents and they all have amazing ideas but the idea is don't get implemented because people don't understand how strong the bureaucracy of America is when the people with the dark suits arrived and explain to him how things are really done. His ideas will not come to fruition, Putin said himself the president has people above and tell them what to do. Putin knows it, everyone knows it right. Trump's the first guy who said no I want to do this, I want to do this one, do this, and they just attacked him with a propaganda machine non-stop. Onslaught of attack to program and brainwash people. And on top of that, they still rigged it.
We'll still winning. That's what's really happening in the world today. When you look at things like Corona and all the other things, it's all an attack on the freedom of individuals, because the people in charge of the world Now understand that they can no longer control us via propaganda and they have to remove our freedoms and to remove our freedoms is only one thing. You can remove. You can only remove freedom and replace it. With one thing humans will accept and that safety, you won't be free anymore, but you'll be safe. I promise. Give me all your freedom. You don't need to own anything. Give it all to me, but I'll keep you
safe. That's the whole idea of the government, coming to save
you.
The only thing that stupid people accept and that's why in real time we see our freedoms evaporate and real-time day by day and we're too busy arguing about racism to do anything about it whole thing's
crazy. What do you think is the biggest Freedom that's evaporated over the last 12
months? Well, in the last 12 months, we've lost our freedom to leave our house. We've lost our freedom to not muzzle our own face. A mask is a big deal to me. You get them to put on my face is my face. We're soon the soon. The vaccine is going to be mandated, that's a huge deal to me. Do I believe the mat vaccines actually gonna hurt me know, I'm strong.
Iron Man. No, but I should have some sovereignty over my own blood. You're telling me, I don't get to choose what's in my bloodstream. The government owns me to that level, like a sheep and a farm where I can't even decide amongst myself. I can make a personal decision to keep my blood. Pure of your experimental vaccines. This is insane. We've lost freedom on every level and what they do when they take your freedom as they take a bunch of it, then they give half of it back and say we're back to normal and people go. Yeah, about to normal. Now I only need an extra vaccine passport and I can go on holiday.
Today, we're not back to normal a year and a half ago, we could do whatever we wanted. Nothing's back to normal and is never gonna go back to normal until people stop complying.
So what's the solution? The site? Like, for the individual person? Who's sitting there saying, everything you're saying, I agree with what do they do?
And that's a good question. But really Corona, I had very little faith in humanity in Corona Corona, see the deal man Corona, sealed, the deal, I could not believe the level to which people were complying with this garbage, I really couldn't believe. You're telling me you're forcing people to close down family businesses they've had for Generations.
Relations you're putting people out of your bankrupting. People like all over a virus that they will openly tell you won't hurt you 99.9 percent survival rate and people are still complying. I couldn't believe it. I really, I was sitting there in real time. Like this is remarkable. I was in Romania in Romania. As part of the EU and EU is all shadow figures. You know who's in charge of European
Union, I do not. Nobody does
that's exact point. They have a parliament, the Parliament can discuss law, but it cannot repeal law or make law the laws of proposed by committee. Who's on the committee. Nobody knows are the elected know,
really Google it. So, Romania, even though the Romanian politicians and I very high, very high friends in Romania and I have casinos in Romania, which I've been trying to reopen. So I've had meetings with high-level Romanian politicians offering them bribes. And they've sat there and said we know Cronus bullshit by the EU is giving us relief funds, billions and billions, we have to comply with the make lockdowns. We're all sitting there with no, my masks, everyone knows shadow figures are in charge of all this junk, right? When this kicked off me and my brother went to Sweden for two months. All over my Twitter, all of my Instagram. I tried to inspire Rebellion because Sweden
Somehow because the sweets are pussies on how they pulled this off, Sweden and Belarus were the only two countries in the world that didn't enact lockdowns for two months. I was running around, Sweden in nightclubs, with beautiful women, two solid months. No Mass, no lockdowns, no restrictions. This is the height, the height of the craziness March last year and everyone's watching what I'm doing and going, oh, takes crazy. I'm like, no, you're crazy for not doing. What can't you see? It's fine. I've taken a risk for you've watched me for two months. I'm fine. All these chicks are fine. The woman in my bed. Rogers woke up with is
Fine. It's all fine. What you panicking for, and then I go, oh no, I know someone who died. My friends. Not your old grandma died. Do not your old. Never used to die before Corona. Oh, that's your proof that this is in the bag there. I didn't know that she was going to live forever old fucking grandma. Janelle people die, it's just insane. They have destroyed the lives of young, healthy people and destroyed economies under the guise of that they're saving lives. When the average age of death of Corona is higher than the average life expectancy,
It's incredible and people to this day, still put their masks on, you must have a mental disorder to be playing a mask on. And when you asked me what two people do on the individual level, if everyone did what I did, it will be over in a week. I'm not even saying, get arrested, I'm not saying refused to put a mask on. All I'm saying is, don't put it on. Unless you're asked, am I doing her security guard at every single person who walks in has no mask. Excuse me, excuse me. Please don't mask on, please. I got one.
You got one for me. Okay. And it runs off. Thanks, next person to make sue me how long they gonna fucking two hours and the bill I got
They'll give up. Now, they've given up this over, right? But everyone's such behaved little children. Let me put a mask on first, I'll put a mask on sometimes, but I'll make it hard. I'll walk in. Excuse me. Excuse me. I'll ignore him. I'll make them. Chase me down the aisle. Do a mask? No, can you give me 100? I don't have one with. You don't have one. I don't have one. Look, I have to go shopping my friend so please. You must have amassed somewhere in the store. Make him go to a 15-minute search, make him find one, make him, bring it to make them work. Don't give up. Why are you giving in slavery?
Instantly make him do something and then it'll all be over with. Everyone's just, let me get my mask in advance to do
and what do you say to the people who say you should wear the mask for preventing the spread of virus?
I say a few things. First things first, it's
always amazing about this mask mandate, I've always questioned this amongst me, I can tell you you really hate
it. Well, I hate it because I it's destroyed my last faith in humanity. I understand why the Nazis are how the Nazis managed to do what they did. I understand now how the Nazis did the worst atrocity?
These inhuman act in history because they said do this, do this, do this. And people don't think, people don't think, people are ignoring their own eyes. Do you see a pandemic are the hospital's full. Do you see people dying? Do you even know anybody who's died? Stop saying the word pandemic, you're listening to the news, it's insane, right? So it does frustrate me, it really does frustrate me. So what was the original question
in terms of the
Mask, wearing a sari? Yeah. So why is wearing masks
A big deal,
right? It would just, it would, do you say the people who say, hey sure, there's personal freedoms and Liberties, but you putting the mask on prevents somebody else from getting sick
if they have their masks on, why do I need my mask on?
This is genuine question when the mask mandates, lift has Corona gone away. No, it's still there. Nothing's changed.
Do you think that we should be back to normal?
I think that if you wear a mask is for one of two reasons, you're scared of Corona which is pathetic because there's bacteria everywhere, there's germs everywhere. That's no way to live your life. You get sick, you get sick. That's unfortunate. That's how the world Works. Being scared of Coronas pathetic option. To, you're not scared of Corona, you're scared of the government. So, is option one, you're a coward, just got a Corona or option, two, you're not
The corona you just comply knowing it, stupid, making you a coward. You're either an idiot or a coward, everything about mask on. You can choose which one you want to be, but you're an idiot or a coward. You wear your mask. If you're still worried about my mask. Why you screaming in my face? You're not scared of Corona. You're scared of the fact that you comply, you've sacrificed your honor as an individual. And I haven't and I annoy you buy existing because I show the I have bravery and balls. This Corona thing was the first time, an absolute coward, got to feel powerful. I feel like a real man cuz I put my type of three masks on it.
Face mask. I'm a good person but for that to be a real man you to be a firefighter or go join the Army. If you wanted some honor your the risk your life. Now if you want honor, if to be the biggest cock in the world and for that reason, they're gonna try and propagate it. They're going to try and propagate. It people hate seeing me win at life for the same reason. I hate seeing us when it life, they hate seeing a man with a mask. I will walk through your grocery store with no mask and I'll walk out and not catch Corona and that bothers you because you have two vaccines and three masks on it. Just upsets them
when you think about where the world,
Headed. What is the solution? Okay, that's a good
question and I can only find one solution, okay? And this is kind of where I'm going to a small plug but I run an organization called the War Room in the organization. What is that? It's a global organization which is based around preparing for the future of that. We're going to live in all the things I was saying to do, I was saying to Dupree Corona and they've been amazing during coronavirus. Almost like, I predicted Corona self, you know, when Noah built the ark, he was a crazy right-wing conspiracy theorist until it started to rain, right?
Now, he's not crazy anymore, and the Ark was open for everybody, it wasn't just the animals who say come, get, all my arc. I've got the answer and I like a crazy, you're crazy, bro. Till it starts to rain, if Corona isn't a little sprinkle of rain for you as an individual that you can turn off the podcast because then there's something wrong with you. Right? So I run an organization which is primarily based around living off, grid is no longer possible as an individual. We all live on grid to some degree. So what I've done is I live on as many grids as possible. So I
Have over seven. Passports, I have over 15 driver's licenses. I've residencies in over 30 countries, I battled banks in 40 countries. Let's say, right? So the goal being that no one government controls my life. So during this Corona lockdown, I've gone to 16 countries. So I'd go to enter the Czech Republic. For example, I try and give my American passport know, your bank is a Corona English, your bank is a Corona Estonian, okay? Can come in on the same guy on the same person, right? I have Corona, I don't but different passport gets me in, right? So this goes to show the only
Way to really try and Achieve fruit. True freedom is firstly, you need to remove a single government control, over your life, you need to be able to say, you know what, I'm going to Singapore. I have a residency there and I have a Singaporean bank account. I'm going to sit there and if anyone has a trouble, now I'm going to turn my phone off and we can or their emails. This is why I live now and they don't, they're not an abstract because I'm a resident unless you're on interpol's top 10 list. They're probably not good at. What could I really do, right. The first thing you need to do is get more passports, more residencies and if not impossible it's just a headache but through ancestry most people watching this through ancestry convey. I'm Irish. I'm the
So you can do it, all right, that's the first thing. The second thing you need to do is get rich and it is unfortunate but it's true. It's about to be Have Nots and have Yachts. That's the world were about to live in as things. Get polarized, as inflation continues to go through the roof. The people who own assets are going to get wealthy beyond belief and the people who own nothing are never going to stand, a hope of ever acquiring an asset. If you're in my position like I was, the reason I travel to 17 countries during the strictest, Corona lockdowns is because I had seven, passports and private jets. I'll get in
I'll get in, I'll find out which passport works. I'll book a private jet. All the commercial flights are canceled, doesn't matter to me. Boom, I'll and so what do you do as an individual, you need either the war room or there's where a lot deeper. Now, given the very base view, right? Or you need to get a bunch of residencies, a bunch of passports, you need to start preparing for the future because the future is based on enslavement, that's what it's based on. It's based on removing your freedoms in the, under the guise of safety telling you you're going to be safe, removing all your freedom, as an individual to keep you.
In the lies and paying taxes, and me a good slave until you die. That's what they need you to do. They need you to pay taxes and die. They're not interested in anything else. And as long as you as people start to wake up as people start to think more freely, they're going to do more and more Extreme Measures to keep us in our place and that's what's happening in real time. Corona at the beginning, I actually believe may have been semi genuinely intented. All maybe it's a disease, maybe it'll guy control after a month from then on out it was an experiment in control. That's all it was after about
A month. They said, no. Okay. No one's really dying. Okay. How long can we keep these people in their house? Let's have a bet. You have a ruling family of ruling family, the right after a month. No they won't. No, they won't. You know what? Let's really, let's really push the boat. Let's let the state next door, open up fully and let's keep this State closed and pretend that a virus respect state lines. Unless see it. Let's see if they, let's see if they're right then. Oh it's been a month. Look, there still are Ryan. These people are idiots. Let's talk about to mask on. Why not spend it before to him but do on. It's a big joke. It's a big joke.
To these people and everyone still out here
complying, will people forget one of my favorite things is there are certain organizations that said, Don't wear masks and they changed their certain organizations. That said things like put a mask on while you have sex crime is all kinds of stuff. That was said that, in hindsight, I think people will look at and say that that doesn't make a lot of sense. But at the time it was you know, what was said to people from authoritative
organizational. But the reason people don't think and I've analyzed this heavily during this Corona year is I'm thinking, why am I thinking
Thinking about all of this and finding the obvious flaws. And people are not thinking and the reason is because most people are happy to be a Slave at our condition to slavery because they live a Slaves Life. I'm a free man, right? I worked very, very hard to get why I have I'm not super rich but I have more than 10, right? I've got some money, I can go where I want, I can do what I want, no one tells me what to do, nobody knows what to do, no one government can control. You can block my American passport right now because it's podcast guarantee I get out guarantee, right? I was somewhat restate. My freedom awaits a big deal but if you're a Joe Schmo and your
Yells at you won't give you a blow job. You're working Starbucks for basically pennies and your boss is telling you what to do all day. When someone else tells you to do some put a mask on, it's just like, okay, you're just a slave, you just, you've been a slave. Every aspect of your life is slavery. Every aspect of your life is semi depressing anyway. These people are conditioned to Slater condition to obey so they just obey people like me. I'm a free man. So when you try and take my freedoms a big deal. Most of these people have freedom, they can't even use because they're too broke. So they don't care if you ban travel light of the leave the country anyway, right? This is what's happening, amongst a lot of people and they
slaves are the same people who are going to you seen The Matrix, right? Haven't seen The Matrix. Morpheus says it. Most people are so inherently dependent on the system. They will fight to defend it. That's exactly what's happening. Now, you see the Karen's yelling about masks, they are so dependent on the system. They will do the work for them there until died to defend a system. It's incredible. And they really believe the system cares about them and that's why they need to wake up and learn something about everything from the ground up from the ground up. Why are you in Miami?
Good question. I'm actually in Miami for a war room event mentioning the war room. So we got three. Big mansions is like, 55 guys from 33 countries and we met up and we were talking a lot of things including crypto funnily enough. So yeah, we're talking about I'm cryptos actually just to go into crypto quickly cryptos. Fixed a lot of the problems I'm talking about cryptos. No cryptos. Amazing for much of things. Even inflation, people the inflation figure, the government stay. If you believe that you, then you believe in Corona. But that's a lie, right? It's a flat-out lie, think about
Out how much a chocolate bar was 10 years ago. Look at the price now. It's like four or five times more expensive in England. I don't know about America, but it's crazy. Right? So much. That's one of the things. It does is helps the inflation aspect to. You can actually control it on your money. You can actually have your money, right? You don't know how else you can have it in cash and then you go deal with inflation. How difficult is it to move serious cash? I'm I had to send it's about four years ago. I sent nine hundred thousand dollars to Qatar for a completely legal reason why I had to buy one to buy.
So I was involved in the purchasing department guitar. Do you believe backflips? To paperwork the legal nightmare? I swear to God I was going to travel list because we're about a year after that I stopped every airport just to for a bank transfer, right? No problem with Bitcoin, no problem. So it fixes a whole bunch of problems, cryptocurrencies. It certainly does. I think a lot of people who are Forward Thinking and believe the things I believe in, it's the only logical conclusion. What else can you trust a bank? You trust them, this does nothing else to do with it. I'm actually at the point where
Although I don't, I do own quite a lot of property. I don't want anymore and I keep getting offered. Nice property deals. Interest is like, should we buy this? Like, no. I don't even trust the Romanian government or the Russian government, I property in Moscow. I don't even trust the government anymore. I don't even want a property because if I pissed the government often just gonna take it, I don't own it. They say you own it until, you know, the government, and you don't own it, right? So I don't even want property anymore. I'm going full crazy, Mister blockchain now because the only time I feel like I have control over things and we're losing control at such a rapid rate. I'm trying to stay ahead of the Curve.
I don't believe people saying, oh, I'll just buy a house and is my little house, it's not your little house, you'll see how quickly they'll take your little house from you. Look what they've done so far, they're taking your business from you. You think I won't take your little house. People aren't, people are not scared enough of the right things, they're scared of Corona, the should be scared of what the government did to them in the name of Corona. Those what they should be, but people are logical people on logical, people have low IQs, their slaves, and are too busy preoccupied with racism and also the garbage to keep them split so they can't all get together for 5 seconds to start thinking.
Wait this is bullshit.
You should run for president.
Yeah, I'd probably wish
y'all. Would you win what I win? They wouldn't let me win, why? Because they drink it.
Imagine I had imagined, I had the influence, right, somehow by some miracle, and I try and run for president. Saying the things I say you think the people in charge of the world and let me write be president. They would never. Let me present because I have morals and integrity is an individual and I would lock people in their houses for a year and a half an hour reason. So no, the only people who are going to win political competitions are people with the friends in the right places and the friends in the right place is only one puppets, they don't want.
Same reason, you won't hire a member of Staff who's going to disagree with you. Every time you give an order, you're going to fire that member of staff. You're gonna get member of Staff. When you say do this, this and this they say, okay, set up for the podcast, okay, you said set up for the podcast. He said, no, this get fired, right? This is this is how the political system works. They're not going to put anyone in Powers going to disagree with them. Why would they? So I don't stand a chance of running for president and truthfully. I don't really have that much aspiration to run for president. My goals are for my War Room networking for myself. I want to know that any moment I can book a private jet.
It disappeared to somewhere, no one's ever heard of and I'm a bunch of money on a USB stick and a bunch of passports, a bunch of residencies. I like the idea of getting a passport in a country that no one's really concerned with changing my name legally in that country. So I now the passport, which is perfectly legal to different name on it. I like doing all this stuff. This is my way of prep work preparing for the world, conquering because I guarantee you, no matter what they do, in the name of Corona, or whatever else you can check my Instagram stories, I'm having fun. I'm living you can check me. I'll be in a club in Belarus surrounded by big booties. Guaranteed. I refuse to be a slave for
You can tell me, it'll stay in my house. I won't do it and Romania when they enacted the curfew. There's a curfew at 7 p.m. first thing I did was get in the lambo start driving around making Instagram stories and all the, all the remaining girls are hit me up on Instagram. Like, oh my God, it's curfew. How are you out? Please give you a fine. I'm like, no, I find the police. Don't find me. I'm talking all this crap, right. I got like in the one week I got like 11 thousand Euro finds. I haven't paid him, I refused to pay him, take me to court. That's I'm resisting on some level, I'm doing something. If everyone did what I did, it would be over, but I'm out.
They're on the streets and they're empty. And I said to the cop, you know, I got stopped by cops five times. Only one gave me a fine of the other four cops are reasonable enough. I said my friend, do you have more in common with me or with the people up there in their Golden Palace were making these rules? Are you rich like them? You know, they're stealing money. You know, this country is corrupt, the roads have holes in them, your pension went missing the police pension fund went missing, do you have more in common with me is another man out here in the street, or with these people in their gold. Engage, they're just giving you the orders to enforce, why can't you think for yourself, you know, Corona is not real.
You think coronavirus at 6:59 or seven PM think and four of them were like, you're right, have fun one. There's always one asshole. No Corona. And these are the stupid people are stupid. It's a miracle. It's a miracle. How stupid humans? I don't know what to say, but I've done my very best to resist this whole way through. I've done my very best and one of the one of the mechanisms, one of the moves I make to resist, is involved in crypto. I think I put a tweetup, I don't know if you follow my Twitter or you put it up, you remember the big Bitcoin crash?
Thousand four hundred dollars and being in this Corona thing going to really really tanked. It will say it's over all this crap. I put a tweetup that I still retweet to this day saying you're all pussies, Bitcoins coming back. I think I said, I'm buying six hundred thousand dollars today and you'll we can talk when it's a 8,000. I think I said that laughter, 602 like 12 million dollars because I had cash in a bank and when everything hit the fan, the first thing I thought was, I don't want cash, I want something else. Give me an asset, okay. How can I get an asset that the government can't take Bitcoin? What else?
Other answer you tell me bro maybe you know something I don't know. Is there anything
else?
No, look I think that it's it's an interesting view for you to have because you have the United States. You've got many European countries, right? You're half white, half black, you've lived all over the world, right? You've had success at multiple Industries and so you just have a lot of experience, right? And so what it does is it gives a very different view of the world than somebody who has lived in one country who only has one type of Industry, expertise or experience who only has one
It's like all these different things. And so when you bring that all together, it is a perspective that I think in the United States is not talked about a lot, right? And there's a lot of political correctness and kind of social pressures at the same time in many of these other countries, right? I think that there's just a different view, frankly, right. Of the kind of entire way, Society is, you know, kind of tied together. And ultimately, I think most people who agree with either, it's part of, or all of what you just
Said think technology is the answer, right? And Technologies kind of The Equalizer. It's the thing that allows for an imbalance of power to be essentially kind of handicapped at the knee, right? And to say look if everyone has access to the same technology. Now, all of a sudden, you can really kind of even the playing field. And I think that, you know, you got to be pretty sick, person to believe that. That's not a good
thing. I completely agreed. I mean, even the internet on its most basic level, forget all their censorship. In fact, checking excetera, the internet is the only reason to propaganda machines been broken.
For the internet, they put some on the news that was it, right? They see only way that the internet as a whole is done very well to attack the propaganda machine. There's still people who believe everything on CNN, but it's also a whole bunch of people who understand the news is fake. That's another good thing. Trump did is he came out, he's coined the term, fake news, fake news before that were like, what you mean? The news is fake. Now, I was kind of like, it was a fake at least, right? So we didn't amazed he did an amazing thing,
right? So what the whole thing is, everyone believes the news is fake, they just argue over whether it's their news or the other side's news, right? That's the other thing is, if, you know,
Otis. I recently saw there's a New York Times journalist who literally was saying, oh you're posting, they're saying to a venture capitalist. Oh, you're posting this super basically like right-wing Fox News, bubble, whatever, that if you go and you go and listen to the Fox News Group, like, oh, you're posting the super left-wing New York Times, CNN, but whatever. And so, it's fascinating to see that essentially, quote, fake news has now become. No. It's just that the perspective that I disagree
with. And, and, and we're all living in.
Chambers and and yeah I mean I don't have the answer to a lot of this. The only answer I've ever come up with is to be very very rich and be able to go wherever I want and keep myself around people who think like me. That's the only answer I've been able to come up with. It's very difficult to save the world because if you were to try and save the world, now you'd be dragging people kicking and screaming to their own Freedom. You'd have to drag people kicking and screaming to their own freedom. Take the mask off, I don't want to, you're allowed is fine, there's no Coronas, find look around you look Florida.
Is open. Why are you still wearing a mask in New York? You don't need to own Florida. No one wears masks. No Corona. Chronic you'd have to literally physically assault, somebody to stick to give him his freedom back. Like I'm not that philanthropy and I really don't care that much, right? I care about me and the people close to me and the best way to do that is financial, which is the first thing. And the second thing is you need to try very, very hard to be get Beyond governmental controls and I will say this about America, the American government is the most oppressive in the world, even for things like Bitcoin exchanges, and all this stuff there on top of everything. Like if you have only
Arkham passport. They're the ones are going to really stay on top of you. If you have a Romanian passport, you can sign up to any Bitcoin exchange, any, they don't care. They're behind these countries are behind a lot of countries in the world are behind but America's most advanced country in the world. So view an American passport, the American Tax authorities, Etc. The most advanced, they're the ones going to hurt you. The most, if you're living only with an American passport living under the most oppressive regime, the number one, and it kind of amazes me because I am American. And I do love Miami especially but is probably the only city in America. Enjoy the only one I can't even though I don't like la.
Don't like New York, sorry bro, and all them everything in between is boring. So, I don't like the whole country as a whole, but it's kind of amazing to me that we living in basically a police state, but it's the least safe. Please stay in the world like Dubai's, a police state. Right? Everything's monitored. It's a police state, but it's so safe and so clean. My, I mean, in Dubai, I wear a half a million dollar watch. Nobody cares. I were a half million dollar watch, I don't look over my shoulder. I'm not, I'm not carrying a weapon. I just live my life and to
Something happening is 0, you never see a car broken into. It's so safe because the law has Law and Order, but here we have law, we have a police state with no safety aspect at all. And the reason for that is because I don't see what binds America together anymore. We're not. But we're not binded by the basic things, like, on a basic evolutionary low IQ gorilla level like color language. All these things, fine. We're not, but we're not even, but we don't even love the same flag. We're not the same ideologies like what is even keeping us together? Now it used to be, well, we're all.
Different. But we all love America not anymore. Half the people here hate America, we hate its past. Hey, everything is done. Nothing about it. I'm talking about Romania being safe. The Romanian police Drive gotchas. They're like old Soviet cars. They couldn't drive it more than 60 miles an hour, but no one runs like you're talking about a country who talked about defund, the police. Their police budget, must be less than a week of a real American police budget, but it's nothing bad happens because there's family, there's more roles. There's respect for the country, there's respect for the flag, they don't want to live
In their own country. Like all the problems that we have can just be fixed by basic morality because people are united by one thing. I can't think what were United by in the west anymore, what are we United by nothing? We're not United. By the way, we think, literally nothing. All were United by perhaps is greed and often if you're greedy enough, then you just find a way to stop on other people. So it's very difficult to find anything that's keeping America together. I really believe, not just America by law of other societies are broken on a fundamental level and they've got a bunch of sellotape on top which is armed police force. And I don't know how long
Over the long term we can survive and how we can perform when you have countries like China where they're like a beehive, they all work together. Alright. Okay, we're more powerful now. But for how long have you ever seen a Chinese person working for someone who wasn't Chinese?
Yeah. Okay. Well I've
seen maybe one in my life, really? Yeah. Well, the technology
industry Rock. There's technology introduced me. Probably loves. I'll give. Another example when I was in Iraq while staying in the hotel. I kind of know what it's called. Is in the nest, in the middle. It was bombed like, three years before. I was there, the big one can't remember. And I'm staying in this hotel full of Chinese. So many Chinese Iraq and they all had Blueprints and building plans. And I said to the barman, the barber was an African guy, a black guy. So why did you come to Iraq? Because all the wages are higher. I'm like the wages are higher in, Iraq.
Where you from it's an Ivory Coast somewhere anyway. He said, yeah, the Chinese are here because they have to rebuild everything. I was like are you telling me? We spent all that money blowing this place up and other Chinese just gonna rebuild it and get paid. That's what's happening because we won't do it because human rights sanctions all this crap. We want to blow stuff up, right? But now they're getting paid trillions. Just rebuild all the Chinese and it was kind of funny we were in a kebab store and we could hear an AK far in the distance. I mean, Kristen were like
And all the Chinese people around us. Didn't even bat an eyelid. They're like, they're like they're like ants, bro. That is like, oh, whatever. But died. I got work tomorrow. Don't even care right there. So United as a people and everything is done for the, I'm not saying the Chinese government's fantastic. In fact, it's the opposite. I'm just trying to talk about on a purely competitive, from a purely competitive perspective, which country is going to be more competitive people which are united by something or people which are completely broken divided on every level. And I just think over the next hundred years, I don't see how I'm ever compete. I don't see how it can compete and then you
Real problems because when America loses his economic Prosperity, then you're going to have to revert to the things like morality, which has. None of I'm Romania has no economic Prosperity but they have morality is the most Christian country in the world. My 9.9% Orthodox Christian I've been on dates with 27 year old women who have to be at 10. I'll be home at 10:00 because her father said, so like the families stick together, they have no social welfare programs. No disabled people programs, nothing is the family, look after them. But there's no old people home family looks after them. All these things we have in the west if none of it it's just family. Family takes.
Care of all those problems. I've never seen in my five years in Romania, a drunk girl. They drink, they have fun, you'll never see one stumbling and ever see one fall over. Do you know why? Because it brings shame on the family, and people will talk. And her father will kick her ass, so they won't do it, they have morality. They have a base level of morality, which means their police force, can be run on a fraction of a budget. And the country can be basically bankrupt broke. It's a poor country, right? They say it's poor, there's plenty of money there. You know, the wealth divide is. Plenty of Lambos over the place, but
When America, loses its economic Prosperity, what morality? You're going to fall back on. If the police force couldn't turn up to police calls, it would be over and nearly every city in America is just instant Purge. We no longer have a rally to fall back on. And I kind of find it amazing that a lot of the conservatives. And I'm going to say this. Now, I pretend I'm pro-trump, I was very disappointed in Trump as a man, he should have gone much harder. He didn't do anything, he really didn't get much done, but a lot of conservatives believe Trump is going to save us from going to save us. Well, now you've seen
The little rig every election. Never gonna get a good present again. Now, what's your hope for America? I don't know. If I had to bet on countries, like, I was betting on cryptos across the next 200 years, I'll be buying China coin. I would not be buying the USA coin. I just see it on the way down. That's all I see. And that for that reasons, one, the reasons I don't live here, I won't buy property here. I don't see this place being livable across the next hundred years.
Sorry to be pessimistic.
But the five. How long do you think you'll live?
I'm
temporarily Immortal. I've yet to die. I've not died once. I've never died in my whole life. So why do I have to believe? It's going to happen. It's probability, probably going to happen, but I don't approach life that way, right? The rule 1 of life is, do not die. That's the first rule of life. I've been in some situations in my life where I had to remind myself of rule one, no matter what it takes, do not die. How long do I think? I'll live? I don't know. But I'll tell you one thing and I'm very, very conscious of this. And a lot of people don't do this, but I am absolutely conscious of this. I enjoyed
Adama life, I really do. And I know everyone says this, but I actually do and that doesn't mean being stupid or irresponsible, it means enjoy everything. Enjoy the sunshine, through the window, as you sit in traffic. I enjoy every single day I'm alive because there's a whole, I've been to a lot of places. I've seen a lot of things. You know what I'm talking about, where people would do anything to be you, and I sometimes I look at, especially the Western World and everyone's depressed, or on medication, or all this crazy stuff. And I just think,
A bad day is coming for all of us, right? For all of us in our future, there's a hundred percent probability that either we're going to die or someone we love is going to die. So a bad day is coming, you will have a reason to be upset soon enough. That's a fact, why are you doing it in advance? Like nothing nothing's wrong today. Oh, you're flat tire boohoo, like, like people are so emotionally reactive to to low-level stuff. I don't get that. I've never been that person, but yeah, I don't know how long I'll live but I know I'm gonna enjoy myself every single second and if someone told me to stay in my house because of a virus, I'm
To comply because I ain't got time. I'm alive. Once I do not have time for that and I refuse to comply on that level. I don't know why. No one else thinks like this. It was just like, oh, I've got two years to waste. No problem. It's crazy.
I got three questions for you that. You get to ask me one to finish up. Okay, amazing. First one was the most important book you've ever read. You know what's interesting?
I've only read two books in my whole
life only to in my life. I'm not a reader. Okay, I've never up every single one of the two books.
Every single thing, I think I know I've learned through experience and conversations. I read two books because I was in a jail cell and they gave me books. So I was arrested, it wasn't this, I was about 24, I'll tell you the story, why not? I'm in a England. The English people of the most violent people in the world like they conquered the entire Earth that the largest Empire in history English people are innately
People think like England. Oh yeah, everyone's in suits. Little gentleman, go to England, right? London's like stabbing capital of the world, like, it's a very violent place. An English people will fight you over nothing. There's they're not friendly or polite, they're very violence between a drink. I'm at a club. I bought a brand new phone, some girl knocked the phone on my hand, I thought it showed us that. Hey, you're not my friend of mine. She turns around, was I don't care. It's not my phone and used to run their mouth. So I'm arguing with this girl and her boyfriend comes over and then her boyfriends really was the problem that I said, oh, she's not my friend, and I was trying to tell her her little problem building today and his two friends.
Ends. Come over now. There's three of them up against the bar and I wanted and pushes me. So I smack it right? So smack one smack, the other one tore out. The other guy grabs, we start wrestling a bit. And while I'm wrestling with one of the guys, the girl because she's English start trying to hit me, right? Well, I don't know if it's a girl or a guy. So I'm doing this. I turn and whack and I smack her ass Parker, right? So I end up in court for gbh against a female and Grievous bodily harm and I broke her jaw and all this stuff and my defense was, I didn't know who's hitting me, I'm just getting hit, I don't know. Watch the CCTV, I don't know.
I got away with it in the end. No, no, go away with that was innocent. They found me innocent again. But, anyway, the point was, I was in a jail cell and they gave me two books and I can't remember one of them. And one of them was about, I'd love. This is a challenge for the podcast who give the podcast challenge. Sure, guys in the comments, if you can find the name of this book, I would really, really happy. It was extremely disappointing. It was about a un negotiator a female who lived in New York City, who was a un negotiator who was fired from being a un negotiator because she made a terrible mistake, and they talk about this terrible mistake for the
75% of the book, even though that the UN of now come back and need her back because she's the best negotiator but she can't be officially on the books as a negotiator because of the terrible mistake and she's like behind the scenes trying to go Shay. It turns out the terrible mistake was she was negotiating peace between these two tribes in Africa, and then slept with the tribal leader of one of the tribes. So I'm reading this book, like, 7 hours, I get to the end. I go. So you're a doctorate from New York, un negotiator who went to Africa, to negotiate, peace, and I'm getting slammed by a warlord.
We speak English, you're a homo, you're just a hot one who would do that. Who would sleep with this war? He's killed millions of. He's killed people. He's a war. He's not gonna be Charming. Is it true story? I don't know what it is. I don't know, but he's not going to be Charming as he. I can't imagine having game. So she was a ho in annoyed me and I closed the book. That's the answer. That's all I got annoyed by her fault. Sorry, I thought this is disgusting. You'd go to church and repent. I won't read this book anymore. That's the only book I've ever read. All right. Second question. You asked bro I was I'm just telling you sleep.
Beep.
I used to only sleep five or six hours, okay? Then, I started sleeping on this 8 sleep mattress, right? Which is basically, there's make it cold as shit, okay? When you lay on it and you sleep deeper and now I see like eight nine hours. Okay life-changing. Okay. How much do you sleep
firstly? I want one of these mattresses. Okay, okay, please give it a like I can
intro you to to Mateo the CEO. He'll gladly give you
amazing. I love I'd love for these mattresses will see if we can get it to Romania. So that's the first thing I'd love one of these how awful
Do I sleep? I um I think I sleep like maybe six seven hours a day. I'm not a big sleeper. I'm definitely not big sleeper. I will you know when you're a child and you don't go to bed until you're really tired but when you're an adult, you go to bed because you know you have to do things the next day. I try and avoid that. I try to avoid the latter. I try and go to bed. When I'm genuinely tired, I don't think I'll tomorrow. I have a busy day better. Go to bed, loads of adults. Go to bed when they're not tired. It's just a certain time. I don't give myself a bedtime. Even if I have to be up again, 6 a.m. the next morning if I'm not tired of three.
Um, I'll just stay up. What's the worst case of happens tomorrow? I lived life tired, who cares? Then I get a good night sleep the day after that. So Myra, my relationship with seems very good because I don't sleep until I'm actually exhausted even since I've been here, I mean, the two days, it took me to get here. Be entrusted with drinking the whole time we were drinking and we landed. And we had work to do, I mean, I'm technically, I'm jet-lagged it's 9:00 in the morning, my time or something stupid, but I don't believe I'm till I'm exhausted. I'm awake. And that's it. But I want one of these
mattresses, I'd like one. All right, third. Question aliens. Are you a Believer or non-believer? Have to be a believer?
How can you not?
Leave this nothing else out there, but our pathetic species. We're losers, we're idiots. We're arguing over the color of skin, like a pathetic. That is my to be an alien race. They're still arguing over the color of skin. Still the whole Space needs exploring, they still got masks on like, come on like we're losers. If we are the best that the Universe can produce, it's not even worth having. We're we were not, there's nothing impressive about Humanity, there's gotta be something better than us out there where they can see Beyond skin color and and masks, there's Gotta Be.
You can ask you can ask
ask me one question. What's the one question you have for
me? What's the one thing I've said today you disagree
with most
the one thing you said today that I disagree with most,
I'll give you a better answer than that. I don't think it's so much. One thing that you said that I disagree with most as much as its I think that there's truth in every single thing that you've said. Yep, the way you deliver it is very bombastic, right? And attention-grabbing which I'm assuming is very intentional and in order to be attention-grabbing and kind of bombastic, you have to take a truth and exaggerated right in terms of remove the new
If, of course, and so, if there's directionally something like the world will be better off if we didn't focus on race. And instead, could remove racism from conversation and simply all live as humans. I think, most people would generally agree with that when you remove all Nuance from it, right. Everyone pays attention yells and screams. And some people will say, I agree with him and some people say I disagree with it. And so, Life Goes On.
I like that answer. You're very smart,
man. We're very smart, very smart, man. All right. Where can we send people to find you on the internet,
right? So I'm on Twitter but I'm on my ninth account. So, how long will I last who? Nobody knows for some reason they seem to think I provoke people, I don't know where they got this impression. So the best place is to follow. Me are on Instagram Cobra, Tate on Instagram. You can see me flexing on the broke, boys, you know, doing you know, you know, that's what it's all about, right? So it's a bunch of
Diamond watches and fancy cars, and the odd bit Corona conspiracy thrown in. And then I have the website Cobra take dot comment on corporate eight.com that gives details my War Room Network and where I say, well, I really think we have some information is stuff on there so corporate take.com is the best place to find me. If you find me interesting or that's where
I'm awesome. You made it through the entire interview with sunglasses on, I appreciate you very much. We're gonna fire both. All right, what did he get next time? You're
Miami. Absolutely.
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