I don't cook with vegetable oil. I don't use vegetable oil at all. However, I'm going to be frank. Okay, when you look at the data, taking people that are eating a high saturated fat diet—so they're eating more like butter, you know, saturated fat, like coconut oil—and substituting that with vegetable oil, there's no effect in their cardiovascular disease risk, or they do better ... Maybe the vegetable isn't killing us as bad as we thought.