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You get into a conversation with someone and it's not going somewhere, Joe Rogan is a black belt at finding a place to pick it up and maneuver it and listen and push back, but not too hard, and give resistance enough that it makes the person work, which gives more information. He's just a
pro.
Jocko Willink
Joe Rogan Is a Master at His Craft; He Makes Podcasting Look Easy
Jocko Underground: It's Harder Than It Looks. Acting, Podcasting, Speaking. Filtering Disinformation.
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